Showing posts with label bible trace. Show all posts
Showing posts with label bible trace. Show all posts

Sunday, March 13, 2011

Bible trace, from Luke

I haven't done a Bible trace in a while. Listed below are versions of Luke Chapter 8, Verse 23 from various Bibles over the years.

I find the Latin and Old English versions to be almost unreadable, although there are several words I know or can guess. Such as I knew that the Latin word procella means storm, and the Old English word yst means storm.

I can read the Middle English version surprisingly well, despite the funky spelling.

Latin, Vulgate - 405
navigantibus autem illis obdormiit et descendit procella venti in stagnum et conplebantur et periclitabantur

English, Old, West Saxon - 990
þa hig reowun. þa slep he; þa com windi yst and hig forhtodon;

Middle English, Wycliffe - 1395
And while thei rowiden, he slepte. And a tempest of wynde cam doun in to the watir, and thei weren dryuun hidur and thidur with wawis, and weren in perel.

Renaissance English, Tyndale - 1526
And as they sayled he fell a slepe and there arose a storme of wynde in ye lake and they were fylled with water and were in ieopardy.

Jacobean English, King James - 1611
But as they sailed he fell asleep: and there came down a storm of wind on the lake; and they were filled with water, and were in jeopardy.

Basic English, Ogden - 1964
But while they were sailing he went to sleep: and a storm of wind came down on the sea, and the boat became full of water and they were in danger.

Sunday, December 19, 2010

Bible trace, from Luke

Listed below are versions of Luke Chapter 19, Verse 36 from various Bibles over the years. The oldest ones are beyond my understanding. I can read only several words of the verses in Latin and in Old English. For instance, I know the words for road, via and weg.

Latin, Vulgate - 405
eunte autem illo substernebant vestimenta sua in via

Old English, West Saxon - 990
and þa he for. hi strehton under hine hyra reaf on þam wege.

Middle English, Wycliffe - 1395
And whanne he wente, thei strowiden her clothis in the weie.

Renaissance English, Tyndale - 1526
And as he wet they spredde their clothes in ye waye.

Jacobean English, King James - 1611
And as he went, they spread their clothes in the way.

Basic English, Ogden - 1964
And while he went on his way they put their clothing down on the road in front of him.

Saturday, October 30, 2010

Bible trace, from Mark

How about another Bible trace? This Bible verse, in Latin and various versions of English, is Mark Chapter 8, Verse 23.

I'm getting better at reading Middle English.

Latin, Vulgate - 405
et adprehendens manum caeci eduxit eum extra vicum et expuens in oculos eius inpositis manibus suis interrogavit eum si aliquid videret

Old English, West Saxon - 990
& þa æt-ran he þas blinden hand endlædde hine buton þa wic. & spætte on hiseagen. & his hand on asette & hine axode.hwæder he aht ge-seage.

Middle English, Wycliffe - 1395
And whanne he hadde take the blynde mannus hoond, he ledde hym out of the street, and spete in to hise iyen, and sette hise hoondis on hym; and he axide hym, if he saye ony thing.

Renaissance English, Tyndale - 1526
And he caught the blynde by the honde and leade him out of the toune and spat in his eyes and put his hondes apon him and axed him whether he saw ought.

Jacobean English, King James - 1611
And he took the blind man by the hand, and led him out of the town; and when he had spit on his eyes, and put his hands upon him, he asked him if he saw ought.

Basic English, Ogden - 1964
And he took the blind man by the hand, and went with him out of the town; and when he had put water from his mouth on his eyes, and put his hands on him, he said, Do you see anything?

Saturday, October 02, 2010

Bible trace from Genesis

This Bible verse, in Latin and various versions of English, is Genesis Chapter 21, Verse 14. I found this on Webster's Online Dictionary under the English word shoulder.

I find the Latin and Old English versions interesting, but I can't read much of either of them.

Latin, Vulgate - 405
surrexit itaque Abraham mane et tollens panem et utrem aquae inposuit scapulae eius tradiditque puerum et dimisit eam quae cum abisset errabat in solitudine Bersabee

Old English, West Saxon - 990
Abraham ða aras on ærne mergen sona ond lædde aweg ða wylne Agar ond Ismahel samod ond sealde him formete, hlaf, ond wæter, ond gewende him ham. Þa ða hi comon to þam westene Bersabee ða wurdon hi on gedwolan.

Middle English, Wycliffe - 1395
And so Abraham aroos erly, and takynge breed, and a botel of water, leide to the shuldur of hym, and bitoke the childe, and lefte hir; the which, whanne he `was gon awey, erride in the wildirnes of Bersabee.

Renaissance English, Tyndale - 1526
And Abraham rose vp early in the mornyng and toke brede and a bottell with water and gaue it vnto Hagar puttynge it on hir shulders wyth the lad also and sent her awaye. And she departed and wadred vpp and doune in the wyldernes of Berseba.

Jacobean English, King James - 1611
And Abraham rose up early in the morning, and took bread, and a bottle of water, and gave it unto Hagar, putting it on her shoulder, and the child, and sent her away: and she departed, and wandered in the wilderness of Beersheba.

Victorian English, Webster - 1833
And Abraham rose early in the morning, and took bread, and a bottle of water, and gave it to Hagar (putting it on her shoulder) and the child, and sent her away; and she departed, and wandered in the wilderness of Beer-sheba.

Basic English, Ogden - 1964
And early in the morning Abraham got up, and gave Hagar some bread and a water-skin, and put the boy on her back, and sent her away: and she went, wandering in the waste land of Beer-sheba

Saturday, September 11, 2010

Bible trace, another from Luke

The Bible Trace I'm featuring today is Luke Chapter 17, Verse 24. This is information that I found on the Internet. I don't have all these versions of the Bible.

I do a little better than usual on reading this verse in Old English, I recognize some words. I don't do much better with Latin. The Middle English spelling is rather difficult to decyrpt.

Latin, Vulgate - 405
nam sicut fulgur coruscans de sub caelo in ea quae sub caelo sunt fulget ita erit Filius hominis in die sua

Old English, West Saxon - 990
Witodlice swa se ligræsc lyhtende scinð under heofone on þa ðing þe under heofone synt: swa bið mannes sunu on his dæge;

Middle English, Wycliffe - 1395
for as leyt schynynge from vndur heuene schyneth in to tho thingis that ben vndur heuene, so schal mannus sone be in his dai.

Renaissance English, Tyndale - 1526
for as the lyghtenynge that apereth out of the one parte of the heven and shyneth vnto the other parte of heven: Soo shall the sonne of man be in his dayes.

Jacobean English, King James - 1611
For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day.

Victorian English, Webster - 1833
For as the lightning that lighteneth from the one part under heaven, shineth to the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day.

Basic English, Ogden - 1964
For as in a thunderstorm the bright light is seen from one end of the sky to the other, so will the Son of man be when his time comes.

Saturday, August 21, 2010

Bible Trace, from Luke

The Bible Trace I'm featuring today is Luke Chapter 7, Verse 50. I found this information when surfing the web.

You might think that I can read the Old English version, as I play with Old English words on this blog, but unfortunately I can't. That verse is almost totally unreadable to me. I do much better with the Latin. Probably because I know some Spanish.

It seems there are minor differences in the Middle English, King James, and Modern English translations.

Despite the interesting Middle English spelling, that verse is understandable if you talk it out.

Latin, Vulgate - 405
dixit autem ad mulierem fides tua te salvam fecit vade in pace

Old English, West Saxon - 990
þa cwæþ he to þam wife: þin geleafa þe dyde hale ga nu on sybbe;

Middle English, Wycliffe - 1395
But he seide to the womman, Thi feith hath maad thee saaf; go thou in pees.

Jacobean English, King James - 1611
And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace.

Basic English, Ogden - 1964
And he said to the woman, By your faith you have salvation; go in peace.

Saturday, July 17, 2010

Bible Trace, from Matthew

The Bible Trace I'm featuring today is Matthew Chapter 22, Verse 32. The Latin version is almost readable for me. The Old English version doesn't seem to say the same thing as the other translations.

Looking at the Old English verse, the word folc can be translated as the people and hyrde as pastor. The hys is a spelling variation of the pronoun his. The word lare, see my word for lake, is related to teaching or learning.

I didn't show a modern translation because it's virtually the same as the King James version.

Latin 405 Vulgate
ego sum Deus Abraham et Deus Isaac et Deus Iacob non est Deus mortuorum sed viventium

Old English 990 West Saxon
a þt folc þt ge-hyrde þa wundredonhyo hys lare.

Middle English 1395 Wyclif
Y am God of Abraham, and God of Ysaac, and God of Jacob? he is not God of deede men, but of lyuynge men.

Jacobean English 1611 King James
I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

Saturday, May 08, 2010

Bible Trace, from 1 Thessalonians

Last Saturday I finished sharing Tolkien's Markirya Poem. Today I have another Bible Trace. A verse from different Bibles through the ages.

Today's Bible Trace is 1 Thessalonians Chapter 5, Verse 10. I didn't compile this information myself, I found this interesting verse online. After the date is the version of the Bible from which the verse was taken. And no, I still can't read Old English, even though there are a few readable words.

Latin 405 Vulgate
Qui mortuus est pro nobis ut sive vigilemus sive dormiamus simul cum illo vivamus

Old English 990 West Saxon
He swealt for us swa þæt, sam we wæccað sam slapað, we lifen ætgædre mid him.

Middle English 1395 Wyclif
That whether we waken, whether we slepen, we lyue togidere with him.

Jacobean English 1611 King James
Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.

Basic English 1964 Ogden
Who was put to death for us, so that, awake or sleeping, we may have a part in his life.

Saturday, March 20, 2010

Another Bible trace

Saturdays I'm trying to take a break from constructing Illunse words, and do different stuff. Today I have another Bible Trace. A verse from different Bibles through the ages.

Today's Bible Trace is Mark Chapter 12, Verse 38. This is something I found online, so don't look for anything profound in my choice of this verse. It's another example of the unreadablity of Old English.

Latin 405 Vulgate
Et dicebat eis in doctrina sua cavete a scribis qui volunt in stolis ambulare et salutari in foro

Old English 990 West Saxon
Ða sæde he heom on his lare. Warnieð fram boceren. þa willeð on ge-gyrtlengan & beon on stræte ge-grette.

Middle English 1395 Wyclif
And he seide to hem in his techyng, Be ye war of scribis, that wolen wandre in stolis,

Jacobean English 1611 King James
And he said unto them in his doctrine, Beware of the scribes, which love to go in long clothing, and love salutations in the marketplaces,

Basic English 1964 Ogden
And in his teaching he said, Be on your watch against the scribes, whose pleasure it is to go about in long robes and be respected in the market-places,

Saturday, March 06, 2010

How readable is Old English?

Given that you and I read English, modern English, how readable is Old English (also known as Anglo-Saxon) to us? In my opinion, it's not readable at all. That's why if we read Beowulf, it better be a translated version.

Allow me to show you how cryptic Old English is. I encountered something called a Bible Trace, which had the same verse from Bibles throughout the ages. My example is Mark Chapter 4, Verse 38. Don't look for anything profound in my choice of this verse, I merely found this example when working on my Illunse word for pillow.

Here's Mark Chapter 4, Verse 38 in Old English from 990 AD and the West Saxon Gospels:
& he wæs on scype ofer bolster slæpende.& hyo awehten hine & cwæðen. nebe-lympð to þe þt we for-wurdðeð.

Does that bible verse make much sense tou you? I doubt that it does. Old English is way different than Modern English.

Here's the same bible verse in Latin from the Vulgate:
Et erat ipse in puppi supra cervical dormiens et excitant eum et dicunt ei magister non ad te pertinet quia perimus.

Honestly, I do just about as well with Latin as Old English. It helps that I know some Spanish. I can't read either language, but I can make good guesses on some words.

Here's the same verse in Middle English from Wyclif Bible in 1395:
And he was in the hyndir part of the boot, and slepte on a pilewe. And thei reisen hym, and seien to hym, Maistir, perteyneth it not to thee, that we perischen?

Middle English is somewhat readable, even with the spelling, but it's painfully archaic.

So what does Mark Chapter 4, Verse 38 say?

Here's the verse in Jacobean English from King James Bible in 1611:
And he was in the hinder part of the ship, asleep on a pillow: and they awake him, and say unto him, Master, carest thou not that we perish?

And here's the verse in Basic English from Odgen Bible in 1964:
And he himself was in the back of the boat, sleeping on the cushion: and they, awaking him, said, Master, is it nothing to you that we are in danger of destruction?

It's interesting to see how English has changed.